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		By: boatmik		</title>
		<link>https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-25979</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boatmik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2018 01:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-25972&quot;&gt;William (Bill) Joshnick&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Bill,

Sorry about the slow reply. The sail works well. This is the exact same sail.

&lt;img src=&quot;https://reallysimplesails.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/12309643_1672768096334327_2877943937844448457_o-1.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Really simple lug sail prototype. &quot; /&gt;

The sail is designed to work with either a loose footed setup with a stiff boom. Or a laced foot with a lighter boom.

If your boom is stiff then you can choose how to set the sail. The loose foot is better for performance in general.

If the boom is lighter and more flexible then the load along the foot needs to be spread out by a lacing.

Loose footed it is best just to have depth in the foot of the sail - a little loose

&lt;img src=&quot;https://reallysimplesails.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/1553126_10203293711649338_1421922058_o.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Loose footed sail on a stiff boom on the Goat Island Skiff.&quot; /&gt;

If lacing - do the end attachments first to get the tension required. Then do the lacing after.

The idea is that the extra curve of the cloth is pushed straight and the extra sail area is pushed into the body of the sail to give the sail depth there.

In the head of the sail that ties along the yard, there is almost 6inches of curve that is also pushed straight.

I will send you a direct copy of this  by email.

Michael]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-25972">William (Bill) Joshnick</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Bill,</p>
<p>Sorry about the slow reply. The sail works well. This is the exact same sail.</p>
<p><img src="https://reallysimplesails.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/12309643_1672768096334327_2877943937844448457_o-1.jpg" alt="Really simple lug sail prototype. " /></p>
<p>The sail is designed to work with either a loose footed setup with a stiff boom. Or a laced foot with a lighter boom.</p>
<p>If your boom is stiff then you can choose how to set the sail. The loose foot is better for performance in general.</p>
<p>If the boom is lighter and more flexible then the load along the foot needs to be spread out by a lacing.</p>
<p>Loose footed it is best just to have depth in the foot of the sail &#8211; a little loose</p>
<p><img src="https://reallysimplesails.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/1553126_10203293711649338_1421922058_o.jpg" alt="Loose footed sail on a stiff boom on the Goat Island Skiff." /></p>
<p>If lacing &#8211; do the end attachments first to get the tension required. Then do the lacing after.</p>
<p>The idea is that the extra curve of the cloth is pushed straight and the extra sail area is pushed into the body of the sail to give the sail depth there.</p>
<p>In the head of the sail that ties along the yard, there is almost 6inches of curve that is also pushed straight.</p>
<p>I will send you a direct copy of this  by email.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		By: William (Bill) Joshnick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William (Bill) Joshnick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2018 23:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just purchased my GIF sail from duckworks.  As I started to secure the sail to the boom I realized the foot was curved (radius) .  How is the foot secure to the straight boom with a curved foot?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just purchased my GIF sail from duckworks.  As I started to secure the sail to the boom I realized the foot was curved (radius) .  How is the foot secure to the straight boom with a curved foot?</p>
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		By: Affordably Priced Sails for Storer Boats		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 01:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Affordably Priced Sails for Storer Boats and other boats too &#8211; see this article to see if the stock Really Simple Sails might be suitable for your boat. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Affordably Priced Sails for Storer Boats and other boats too &#8211; see this article to see if the stock Really Simple Sails might be suitable for your boat. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Donna Saperstone		</title>
		<link>https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-21569</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donna Saperstone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2015 17:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-21567&quot;&gt;boatmik&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for your reply. I can see that my mast (9 feet 9 inches) will be too short for the Oz sail. Too bad, I would like to have tried it. Thanks again!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-21567">boatmik</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for your reply. I can see that my mast (9 feet 9 inches) will be too short for the Oz sail. Too bad, I would like to have tried it. Thanks again!</p>
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		By: boatmik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boatmik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2015 07:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-21564&quot;&gt;Donna Saperstone&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Donna,

The centreboard of the Snark Sunchaser is around 200mm further forward than the one on the OzGoose and OzRacer RV.  However both of these boats have a second mast position 186mm closer to the centreboard and they work OK in that position.

By working OK I mean that with the flat bow of the Goose and OzRacer you need a very neutral helm to enable steering around the biggest wave crests when racing.  But with the mast in the aft position there is a little weather helm making it a little harder to steer a few degrees downwind to avoid wave crests.

The pointy bow of the Snark would mean that you are unlikely to need to steer down and the weather helm would work OK.

The other thing is that the mast height above the deck for the Oz sail is 3700mm.

The halyard block or eye position on the mast would be about 50mm below that.  There would be no need to trim the mast above that ... so if the Snark mast is longer above deck (I think it is) it won&#039;t need to be trimmed ... just a small fitting on the back of the mast at that point.

Hope that helps

Michael]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-21564">Donna Saperstone</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Donna,</p>
<p>The centreboard of the Snark Sunchaser is around 200mm further forward than the one on the OzGoose and OzRacer RV.  However both of these boats have a second mast position 186mm closer to the centreboard and they work OK in that position.</p>
<p>By working OK I mean that with the flat bow of the Goose and OzRacer you need a very neutral helm to enable steering around the biggest wave crests when racing.  But with the mast in the aft position there is a little weather helm making it a little harder to steer a few degrees downwind to avoid wave crests.</p>
<p>The pointy bow of the Snark would mean that you are unlikely to need to steer down and the weather helm would work OK.</p>
<p>The other thing is that the mast height above the deck for the Oz sail is 3700mm.</p>
<p>The halyard block or eye position on the mast would be about 50mm below that.  There would be no need to trim the mast above that &#8230; so if the Snark mast is longer above deck (I think it is) it won&#8217;t need to be trimmed &#8230; just a small fitting on the back of the mast at that point.</p>
<p>Hope that helps</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		By: Donna Saperstone		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donna Saperstone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2015 01:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi! I am interested in putting a lug sail on my 12 foot Snark Sunchaser II. I like the lug sail because the yard and boom will be easier to stow than the lateen spars that I now have.  I like the Oz sail, but I am concerned that I may have too much weather helm with it. The mast is only approx. 30 inches in front of the daggerboard.  Also, the mast is 9 feet 9 inches above the deck. Will the Oz sail be a good choice for my boat? Thanks for your help!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! I am interested in putting a lug sail on my 12 foot Snark Sunchaser II. I like the lug sail because the yard and boom will be easier to stow than the lateen spars that I now have.  I like the Oz sail, but I am concerned that I may have too much weather helm with it. The mast is only approx. 30 inches in front of the daggerboard.  Also, the mast is 9 feet 9 inches above the deck. Will the Oz sail be a good choice for my boat? Thanks for your help!</p>
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		By: Nick Blake		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Blake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2015 13:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-21350&quot;&gt;boatmik&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Michael,

After some wishywashying, I have decided to just use a spritsail of small dimension as Chapelle shows on his chandlery Whitehall of that size.  I wanted to run more sail, but as you said the Whitehall is tender.  That&#039;s okay, she&#039;s a beautiful rower with an auxiliary sail.
Thanks again,
Nick]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-21350">boatmik</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Michael,</p>
<p>After some wishywashying, I have decided to just use a spritsail of small dimension as Chapelle shows on his chandlery Whitehall of that size.  I wanted to run more sail, but as you said the Whitehall is tender.  That&#8217;s okay, she&#8217;s a beautiful rower with an auxiliary sail.<br />
Thanks again,<br />
Nick</p>
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		By: boatmik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boatmik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2015 04:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-20425&quot;&gt;Nick Blake&lt;/a&gt;.

I think the GIS and Oz sails will be too big for the Whitehall.  The normal whitehall hullshape doesn&#039;t have a lot of stability.  I think if you chose an Oz sail, the sail would have to have one or two reefs in most of the time.

This is also a characteristic of most good rowing boats and canoes.  They give up stability to reduce drag so they can achieve good speeds rowing.

Michael]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-20425">Nick Blake</a>.</p>
<p>I think the GIS and Oz sails will be too big for the Whitehall.  The normal whitehall hullshape doesn&#8217;t have a lot of stability.  I think if you chose an Oz sail, the sail would have to have one or two reefs in most of the time.</p>
<p>This is also a characteristic of most good rowing boats and canoes.  They give up stability to reduce drag so they can achieve good speeds rowing.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		By: Nick Blake		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Blake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2015 22:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello,  I am currently building a 16 ft lapstrake Whitehall with a centerboard based on a Chapelle design.  I have seen several of these rigged with a balanced lug and was curious if you thought the GIS sail might be appropriate.  Length is 16 ft, beam 4&#039;10&quot;, weight 350ish?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,  I am currently building a 16 ft lapstrake Whitehall with a centerboard based on a Chapelle design.  I have seen several of these rigged with a balanced lug and was curious if you thought the GIS sail might be appropriate.  Length is 16 ft, beam 4&#8217;10&#8221;, weight 350ish?</p>
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		By: boatmik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boatmik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2015 09:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-14930&quot;&gt;James Buttrey&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Jimmy,

Edna asked me to look at your info.

I looked at the online page for the Nova Scotian.  I don&#039;t think any of our sails will be suitable.

The two big sails are too large and the canoe sail is too small to move the Dory along well.

Sorry about that.  But thanks for checking with us!

Best wishes
Michael Storer]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-14930">James Buttrey</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Jimmy,</p>
<p>Edna asked me to look at your info.</p>
<p>I looked at the online page for the Nova Scotian.  I don&#8217;t think any of our sails will be suitable.</p>
<p>The two big sails are too large and the canoe sail is too small to move the Dory along well.</p>
<p>Sorry about that.  But thanks for checking with us!</p>
<p>Best wishes<br />
Michael Storer</p>
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		By: James Buttrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Buttrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2015 23:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi John
    I am currently building a 16&#039; Grand Banks Dory from Spirainternational.com (it&#039;s the Nova Scotian). The plans call for a Sprit and jib but I would like to install a lug. Any help in this area would be appreciated. Length is 16&#039; 2&quot;, beam is 4&#039; 10&quot;, and it weights about 190 lbs.


Thanks,
    Jimmy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John<br />
    I am currently building a 16&#8242; Grand Banks Dory from Spirainternational.com (it&#8217;s the Nova Scotian). The plans call for a Sprit and jib but I would like to install a lug. Any help in this area would be appreciated. Length is 16&#8242; 2&#8243;, beam is 4&#8242; 10&#8243;, and it weights about 190 lbs.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
    Jimmy</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2015 05:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-9721&quot;&gt;Edz&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the feedback. 

John]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-9721">Edz</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback. </p>
<p>John</p>
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		By: Edz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2015 04:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-9720&quot;&gt;John&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi John,

I think that none of our sails really suit the El Toro at this stage.  The normal sail area of the boat is 50 square feet.  A lug rig often means you can carry a bit more sail as the sail is quite simple to reef.

However with the normal El Toro sail at 50 square feet our canoe sail at 36 or the oz sail at 89 are just too far away from the normal range.

Edna]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-9720">John</a>.</p>
<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>I think that none of our sails really suit the El Toro at this stage.  The normal sail area of the boat is 50 square feet.  A lug rig often means you can carry a bit more sail as the sail is quite simple to reef.</p>
<p>However with the normal El Toro sail at 50 square feet our canoe sail at 36 or the oz sail at 89 are just too far away from the normal range.</p>
<p>Edna</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2015 04:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a question: I am looking at putting a lug sail on my El Toro if it is possible.  The boat length is 8ft. The center board is 780mm behind the mast. Based on my reading, the canoe/dinghy sail will not work, however the Oz sail might. Any advice? 

Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question: I am looking at putting a lug sail on my El Toro if it is possible.  The boat length is 8ft. The center board is 780mm behind the mast. Based on my reading, the canoe/dinghy sail will not work, however the Oz sail might. Any advice? </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		By: boatmik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boatmik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2015 23:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-9713&quot;&gt;Alex&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Alex,

The GIS halyard point is 4380mm above deck.  The sides of the boat come up 200mm higher than the deck, but are low enough to not interfere with the boom&#039;s range of movement.

Michael.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://reallysimplesails.com/using-really-simple-sails-on-other-boats-advice-and-dimensions/#comment-9713">Alex</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Alex,</p>
<p>The GIS halyard point is 4380mm above deck.  The sides of the boat come up 200mm higher than the deck, but are low enough to not interfere with the boom&#8217;s range of movement.</p>
<p>Michael.</p>
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